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Ep 17 – Public Schools, Private Money

Ep 17 – Public Schools, Private Money

In the Season 2 finale, we discuss the many ways in which private money is funneled into public schools – which schools get it, what they use it for, and what the impact is on the overall system of public education.

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Ep 15 – Gifted, Talented and Segregated

Ep 15 – Gifted, Talented and Segregated

Gifted programs have long been criticized for serving a disproportionately large percentage of White and/or privileged students. In this episode, we talk about the challenges that gifted programs create for educational justice.

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Ep 14 – Kirkland on Integration

Ep 14 – Kirkland on Integration

Dr. David Kirkland (NYU) joins us for a meta discussion around school integration. He shares a powerful vision of integration from a racial justice framework; it is one that is grounded in democratic participation and the sharing of resources and one that involves us all in the deliberation of what counts as knowledge, the language of curriculum, and the fundamental design of education.

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Ep 13 – Hopes and Hazards of Dual Language

Ep 13 – Hopes and Hazards of Dual Language

Dual Language programs are exploding in popularity across the country — and particularly among White &/or privileged families in gentrifying communities. There’s great hope for equity in these programs, but also plenty of hazards, particularly around how White and/ or privileged families show up in the spaces.

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Ep 11 – White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy

Ep 11 – White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy

We talk with Dr. Elizabeth McRae, author of Mothers of Massive Resistance: White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy, about what her research tells us about contemporary school segregation — and the hope her work gives for it’s dismantling.

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Ep 9 – The Only One (Part 2): SMOG

Ep 9 – The Only One (Part 2): SMOG

Part 2 looks at the experience of being the “Only One” from the perspective of adults who were “Only Ones” – one White, and one Black. We discuss how race makes that experience different, and how that experience is ever present, even in adulthood.

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Ep 8 – The Only One (Part 1): SMOG

Ep 8 – The Only One (Part 1): SMOG

The fear of your kid being the “only one” often pushes White families away from global majority schools. We’ll talk about it in two parts – parents of kids who are the only one, and adults who were the only one. In Part 1, we’re joined by Lauren from Pennsylvania. Look for Part 2 next week.

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Ep 7 – Vicky and The Saviors

Ep 7 – Vicky and The Saviors

In this episode, we talk with Vicky, a Mexican mom whose kids attend an integrated school in a gentrifying neighborhood. Vicky shares what it feels like to be “saved” by some of the White &/or privileged families at her kids’ schools (spoiler: not so great). 

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Ep 6 – The Hidden Gem

Ep 6 – The Hidden Gem

A hidden gem is a school that is “good” but not often found on the lists shared by White and/or privileged parents. Choosing a “hidden gem” can often have negative consequences for the school community.

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Ep 5 – Interview with a Skeptic

Ep 5 – Interview with a Skeptic

A lifelong activist and 20 year veteran of nonprofit work, Chris Stewart is the current chief executive of the Wayfinder Foundation, and an outspoken critic of many current integration efforts.

He and Courtney discuss the many ways that desegregation efforts can be thwarted, and the ways they can go wrong if they are successful.

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Ep 3 – Hagerman and the White Kids

Ep 3 – Hagerman and the White Kids

Professor and author, Dr. Margaret Hagerman, discusses her new book – White Kids: Growing Up With Privilege in a Racially Divided America. We discuss her work, and what it tells us about the importance of the types of environments in which we raise our kids.

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Ep 2 – The Bordon Family

Ep 2 – The Bordon Family

We’re joined by the Bordon family. In choosing a school for their daughters, they started out following the narrative of how people with the privilege of choose a school should go about it. After a conversation with their school district about who has has that privilege and the segregation that results from it, they made a change and sent both of their kids to global majority schools. Many years later, they reflect on that journey and how it has shaped their understanding of race, class, privilege, and education.

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Ep 1 – Intro to The Integrated Schools Podcast

Ep 1 – Intro to The Integrated Schools Podcast

Courtney from LA, Anna from LA, and Sarah from Houston talk about their experiences choosing integrated schools, why IntegratedSchools.org exists, and the importance of showing up in integrating spaces with humility, and awareness.

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