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  • S12E17 - Reflections on Season 12

    S12E17 - Reflections on Season 12

    Jun 3, 2026 •

    As we wrap up Season 12, we're reflecting on the conversations that sustained us through a year marked by uncertainty, challenge, and change. From belonging and disability justice to school closures, immigration raids, public education advocacy, and the lessons history offers us today, this season reminded us of the power…

  • S12E16:  Carrying the Torch:  The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective

    S12E16:  Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective

    May 17, 2026 •

    On the 72nd anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education, Andrew and Dr. Val talk with Cecilia Marshall, granddaughter of Justice Thurgood Marshall and founder of the Thurgood Marshall Foundation. Together, they reflect on the families behind Brown, the sacrifices made in the fight for educational justice, and why public…

  • S12E15: REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross

    S12E15: REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross

    May 6, 2026 •

    What if accountability didn’t require public shaming? MacArthur “Genius” Dr. Loretta Ross joins us to talk about the power of “calling in”—a practice rooted in love, curiosity, and connection. From her personal journey through trauma and healing to her decades of justice work, Dr. Ross shows us how we can…

  • S12E14 - REVISIT: Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee

    S12E14 - REVISIT: Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee

    Apr 22, 2026 •

    We're going back to the archives to revisit a conversation with Heather McGhee. Her book, The Sum of Us, called attention to the idea of “solidarity dividends”, the gains that are made when people come together across race to fight for justice. She joins us to talk about her new…

  • S12E13 - Seeds of Resistance: The Lemon Grove Legacy

    S12E13 - Seeds of Resistance: The Lemon Grove Legacy

    Apr 8, 2026 •

    What happens when a community refuses to accept segregation—and organizes instead? In this episode, we explore the 1931 Lemon Grove Incident, one of the first successful school desegregation cases in the U.S., through a conversation with author Maria Dolores Águila. Her book A Sea of Lemon Trees brings this history…

  • S12E12 - Spatial Injustice: School Closures as a Form of Educational Redlining

    S12E12 - Spatial Injustice: School Closures as a Form of Educational Redlining

    Mar 25, 2026 •

    School closures are often framed as inevitable—but what if they’re the result of deeper systemic choices? This week, we talk with Dr. Mara Tieken about how closures disproportionately impact Black, Brown, and low-income communities—and why they rarely deliver the promised benefits. Together, we explore the idea of spatial injustice and…

  • S12E11 - Legacy and Community: Bridging Generations through History

    S12E11 - Legacy and Community: Bridging Generations through History

    Mar 11, 2026 •

    In this episode, Andrew and Dr. Val talk with Logan Tilton about what it means to encounter history as something living and human. Through reflections on learning histories she had never been taught, Logan shares how understanding the people behind movements—from enslaved ancestors to young foot soldiers in Selma—changes how…

  • S12E10: Caring for Your Community in a Time of Crisis: On the Ground in Minneapolis

    S12E10: Caring for Your Community in a Time of Crisis: On the Ground in Minneapolis

    Feb 25, 2026 •

    In this heavy-but-hopeful episode, we hear from Minneapolis parent leaders navigating crisis on the ground as ICE operations disrupt families, schools, and daily life. Carina (a White mom and bridge-builder in dual language spaces) and Cisne (a Spanish-speaking immigrant mom and community leader) share how relationships, language justice, and mutual…

  • S12E9 - Staying Power with Danielle Wingfield

    S12E9 - Staying Power with Danielle Wingfield

    Feb 11, 2026 •

    Legal historian Dr. Danielle Wingfield helps us connect today’s attacks on public education to a long history of “massive resistance.” We talk curriculum fights, “parental rights,” privatization, and what it takes to build home place—and find the staying power to outlast backlash.

  • S12E8 - Demystifying Disability with Emily Ladau

    S12E8 - Demystifying Disability with Emily Ladau

    Jan 28, 2026 •

    The Integrated Schools Podcast returns with a generous, grounding conversation with disability rights activist and author Emily Ladau, author of Demystifying Disability: What to Know, What to Say, and How to be an Ally. Ladau models what it means to “call people in,” making conversations about disability more accessible, human,…

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S12E17 – Reflections on Season 12

S12E17 – Reflections on Season 12

As we wrap up Season 12, we’re reflecting on the conversations that sustained us through a year marked by uncertainty, challenge, and change. From belonging and disability justice to school closures, immigration raids, public education advocacy, and the lessons history offers us today, this season reminded us of the power of community and collective action.
We also hear from listeners navigating school closures, parent organizing, and the everyday joys of integrated schools. Together, these stories remind us that while we can’t predict what comes next, we can keep showing up for one another—and for all of our children.

S12E16:  Carrying the Torch:  The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter’s Perspective

S12E16:  Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter’s Perspective

On the 72nd anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education, Andrew and Dr. Val talk with Cecilia Marshall, granddaughter of Justice Thurgood Marshall and founder of the Thurgood Marshall Foundation. Together, they reflect on the families behind Brown, the sacrifices made in the fight for educational justice, and why public schools remain essential to democracy.
Ms. Marshall shares personal stories about knowing Thurgood Marshall simply as “Grandpa,” the responsibility of preserving his legacy, and her vision for a traveling museum bringing civil rights and civics education to communities across the country.
This conversation explores collective responsibility, the power of diverse public schools, and what it means to keep building bridges in a deeply divided moment.

S12E15: REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross

S12E15: REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross

What if accountability didn’t require public shaming? MacArthur “Genius” Dr. Loretta Ross joins us to talk about the power of “calling in”—a practice rooted in love, curiosity, and connection. From her personal journey through trauma and healing to her decades of justice work, Dr. Ross shows us how we can hold each other accountable without breaking our communities. A timely, necessary conversation about parenting, privilege, public schools, and the power of showing up as our best selves.

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Val Brown

Val Brown is a Black mom from North Carolina. She believes that education is a vehicle for social change, and encourages parents, caregivers, and educators to engage in public discourse about critical topics because it allows them to learn with and from others.

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