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We’re proud to have won Silver in the 2024 Signal Awards!

About the Podcast

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversation strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

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If you care about a multiracial democracy and if you believe that public schools are an important piece of this work, we need your support.

S11E5 – Reflections on the 2024 Election

S11E5 – Reflections on the 2024 Election

In the wake of the election results, Dr. Val and Andrew sit down to reflect on what it means for ourselves, for the Integrated Schools movement, and for the institution of public education.  

S11E4 – White Rage Revisited with Carol Anderson

S11E4 – White Rage Revisited with Carol Anderson

“Since the days of enslavement, African Americans have fought to gain access to quality education. Education can be transformative. Education strengthens a democracy.” – Dr. Carol Anderson, author of White Rage. In this week before the election, we are revisiting this conversation from March of 2022 discussing the White rage backlash to the Brown v. Board decision, and how it is as relevant today as it was in the late 1950s.

S11E3: The First – One Family’s Desegregation Story

S11E3: The First – One Family’s Desegregation Story

Dr. Sandra Mitchell was entering the 4th grade in 1963 when her family decided to desegregate Stonewall Jackson Elementary in Petersburg, VA. She joins us to tell her story of struggle and hope. We also get to hear from her father, the Reverend Grady Powell, who, at 92, continues to be a powerful voice for integration.

Meet The Hosts

Andrew Lefkowits

Val Brown

Val Brown is a Black mom from North Carolina. She believes that education is a vehicle for social change, and encourages parents, caregivers, and educators to engage in public discourse about critical topics because it allows them to learn with and from others. 

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