About the Podcast

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversation strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

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S10E15 – Rebuilding The Black Educator Pipeline with Sharif El-Mekki

S10E15 – Rebuilding The Black Educator Pipeline with Sharif El-Mekki

Knowing the power of the Black educational tradition, and the documented impact of Black teachers on students, Sharif El-Mekki founded The Center for Black Educator Development to rebuild the Black educator pipeline that was crushed in the wake of desegregation attempts around the country. He joins us to discuss his work, and explain how it is rooted in a Black educational tradition that stretches back generations.

S10E14 – Jim Crow’s Pink Slip with Dr. Leslie Fenwick

S10E14 – Jim Crow’s Pink Slip with Dr. Leslie Fenwick

In Jim Crow’s Pink Slip, Dr. Leslie Fenwick tells the untold story of the 100,000 Black teachers and principals who were lost in the wake of desegregation attempts across the South. She joins us to talk about the book, her journey to writing it, and what understanding this untold history means for the ongoing quest for more teachers of color.

S10E13 – Local Stories of Desegregation: DENVER (Part 3)

S10E13 – Local Stories of Desegregation: DENVER (Part 3)

Local stories of desegregation hold the power to uplift those who fought for justice, the demands they made, and the ways we have failed to honor that work. Over the coming months we will be diving into several local stories, starting with Denver, CO and the court case, Keyes v School District No 1. Decided 50 years ago, the Keyes case was the first to try the standard set in Brown v Board outside of the South, resulting in massive changes both nationally and locally.

Meet The Hosts

Andrew Lefkowits

Val Brown

Val Brown is a Black mom from North Carolina. She believes that education is a vehicle for social change, and encourages parents, caregivers, and educators to engage in public discourse about critical topics because it allows them to learn with and from others. 

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